LukePhillipsWINS (January 1, 1970 at 11:59 am)

we dont need oil to live, we just use oil so people can get rich. i mean we got cars which can run on just water or SE. and nuclear energy could power houses must better than oil ever can

ocean3da (January 1, 1970 at 11:59 am)

Spooky. No doubt about it!

TonyLambregts (January 1, 1970 at 11:59 am)

We had better convert over to an electric economy. The only Bio-fuel that isn't energy negative is sugar cane and you cant grow that outside of the tropics.Most of the alternative energy sources are only good for making electricity. Train systems can deal with electricity but tractors are another matter and without tractors farming isn't going to be very efficient. Peak Oil SUCKS but it's reality.

runkaballe (January 1, 1970 at 11:59 am)

Lost jobs is nothing compared to what will happened in a few years when Ford GM falls down in a hole.I wouldn´t worry new technology always have issues and the lifespan of batteries is just a few years.

OUTOFGAS88 (January 1, 1970 at 11:59 am)

yes it could as much as 3/4 depending on the grade of coal you use,because just like with crude oil you have the good stuff and the junk.here is the main problem with the electric car although it is superior to gas powered vehicles,it will kill all the jobs related to cars with internal combustion engine that's why it was taken off the market in the first place its virtually maintenance free,no need for mechanics or replacement parts.

runkaballe (January 1, 1970 at 11:59 am)

I´m no expert on price of coal but generally it´s a lot lower then for gasoline.To refine crude oil to gasoline also cost energy.1/6 energy out put, were in hell did you get those numbers? coals energy value is about 30MJ/kg and gasoline is about 44MJ/kg, so it´s more like 3/4.The internal combustion engine is a terrible invention with an efficiency of 25-30% probably even lower if you drive in a city.Compared to an electric motor that easily have a efficiency over 90%

OUTOFGAS88 (January 1, 1970 at 11:59 am)

net energy its going to cost more to produce synthetic fuel from coal then you can from selling it,it sounds to me like you need more facts,about,fossil fuels and what they can and can't do for instance did you know that coal is 1\6 the energy out put of crude oil.did you know that one barrel of light sweet crude oil (42gallons) produces the same amount of energy as a man doing twenty five thousand hours of heavy manual labor,oil is a miracle substance that we have pissed away.

runkaballe (January 1, 1970 at 11:59 am)

Any car that need more then 0.3"liter"/10km has to pay a penelty tax on 100000 dollars a year.Increase the driving age to the age of drinking beer. Tax cuts for carpooling, get rid of parking spaces in cities so people use a bike or a buss. Make it cheaper to go by train and bus then driving. Again the coal reserve in the US is big enough to power the US for 50-60 years.

OUTOFGAS88 (January 1, 1970 at 11:59 am)

all i can say to that comment runkablle is keep dreaming,yes its true you can make a synthetic fuel from not only coal,but also other things,that's not the point the point is that the US of automobiles consume nearly NINE BILLION GALLONS of gasoline every year,if you believe by any stretch of the imagination that you can produce that amount of fuel from coal you are the truly ignorant one.

OUTOFGAS88 (January 1, 1970 at 11:59 am)

the key to understanding why WHY MODERN INDUSTRIAL CIVILIZATION is dead,is becoming knowledgeable,about OIL once you understand what it is, why it is, what rule it plays in our lives,and what our live would be like without it,i believe all those who think there is any combination of alternative energy sources out there that will allow us to maintain the the quality of life we currently enjoy ,as well as the current world population,will see that THE END is here.we have to wake up and see it.